Bug 26606

Summary: hampering default on the CD: "boot from hard disk"
Product: Simply Linux Reporter: Ivan Zakharyaschev <imz>
Component: installerAssignee: Mikhail Efremov <sem>
Status: CLOSED FIXED QA Contact: Andrey Cherepanov <cas>
Severity: normal    
Priority: P3 CC: mike, viy
Version: 6.0   
Hardware: all   
OS: Linux   

Description Ivan Zakharyaschev 2011-11-23 01:46:50 MSK 
altlinux-6.0.0-simply-i586-ru-live-cd.iso has as the default boot option "from hard disk".  But this hampers one to boot the Live CD in the case when the keyboard doesn't work in the boot loader. (A USB keyboard.)  I suggest to make the default such that the live ALTLinux system is booted without any intervention from the user. Why not? An installed ALTLinux system usually boots on a computer without any intervention from a user.  My case is like this: the USB keyboard is the only working keyboard on this computer. But the USB keyboard doesn't work in BIOS and in the bootloader. To make it boot from CD, I disconnect the hard drives. And I'd like to boot the Live CD and install an ALTLinux system. The default option in the bootloader is a hindrance, and it even makes no sense in the described situation, because I have already disconnected the hard drives intentionally.
Comment 1 Michael Shigorin 2011-11-23 10:51:59 MSK 
Does that BIOS have any USB-related settings like "Legacy USB support"?
Should be enabled if yes.

(dropping bug #26608 as mkimage-profiles is not the source of this image's behaviour but the FR is accepted for it)
Comment 2 Ivan Zakharyaschev 2011-11-23 14:07:55 MSK 
2Michael: Thanks for your attention to my particular problem (although it's not important for this feature request in general). The situation is like that:

There is a computer (even, there are 2 computers) whose traditional keyboard port is broken. But it's not a problem for using an installed OS: a USB keyboard can be used. But there is no way to enter the BIOS setup before booting, no way to control the bootloader immediately when booting, etc., because the USB keyboard support in the BIOS hasn't been enabled before.
Comment 3 Ivan Zakharyaschev 2011-11-23 14:09:53 MSK 
The problem applies also to altlinux-6.0.1_rc2-simply-i586-ru-install-dvd5.iso.
Comment 4 Michael Shigorin 2011-11-23 16:24:56 MSK 
Just in case, some PS/2 controllers block completely when something probes an empty port -- the usual problem with these is plugged keyboard, missing mouse and total I/O blackout on thekeyboard after probing the mouse; seen that on too many i815 mobos but BIOS should be accessible.  In case there's a free/working PS/2 mouse port you can plug PS/2 keyboard there as the two are equivalent (remember PS/2 Y-cables for some older notebooks to plug both KB/M into a single port?).

I don't think that this very particular situation is a bug to be fixed in the image: we do risk others' data that way.  If you would be fine with a "simple" p6-based installer booting to install by default I can provide that quickly; as I don't use m-p-d these days (but rather work on m-p) the tweak for Simply iso might take me a bit longer.
Comment 5 Ivan Zakharyaschev 2011-11-23 19:24:45 MSK 
2Michael: Thanks for your suggestion of such an image. Actually, I don't think this particular case is worth bothering: I think I'd be able to cope with this problem if I want to proceed with installing ALTLinux on that computer -- it's possible to put a bootloader with a fixed necessary configuration (perhaps, smart boot manager, or grub) on a second hard disk (to leave the currently working one untouched for safeness), and boot with it connected.

Simply, before proceeding with installation, I wanted to have a look at how a LiveCD with Simply Linux will boot on this computer, and perhaps be able to use it as a live system if there is a need. So I needed a LiveCD, and because of the problem with keybaord, a LiveCD which boots itself by default...
Comment 6 Mikhail Efremov 2011-11-23 20:55:16 MSK 
There were some objections against default boot from LiveCD, but I don't remember exactly what it is. May be we need to discuss this later.
Comment 7 Ivan Zakharyaschev 2011-11-23 22:24:29 MSK 
A successful work-around was for me to modify /syslinux/isolinux.cfg in the image, before burning, with xorriso-0.6.6.pl00-alt1.  The command below  * reads the image from the file,  * applies a filter to that configuration file with the wanted substitution,  * updates its mtime (otherwise xorriso thinks that there is no need to write a new image, because a "filter" is not regarded as a modification of content, just an optimization),  * extracts (and then prints out) the modified configuration file (for diagnostics), * patches the isolinux bootloader in the new disk (otherwise the new disk wouldn't boot with "isolinux: checksum error" -- probably because the directory tree is changed compared to the original, so something has to be updated in the bootloader), * and finally outputs it to the burner.  $ xorriso -indev altlinux-6.0.1_rc2-simply-i586-ru-install-dvd5.iso -external_filter subst default /bin/sed 's/^default harddisk/default live/' -- -set_filter subst /syslinux/isolinux.cfg -- -osirrox on -extract /syslinux/isolinux.cfg ~/tmp/isolinux.cfg -alter_date m +0 /syslinux/isolinux.cfg -- -boot_image isolinux patch -outdev /dev/cdrom -commit_eject out && echo 'The new isolinux.cfg:' && cat ~/tmp/isolinux.cfg; rm -fv /home/imz/tmp/isolinux.cfg xorriso 0.6.6 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project.  xorriso : NOTE : Loading ISO image tree from LBA 0 xorriso : UPDATE : 1898 nodes read in 1 seconds xorriso : NOTE : Detected El-Torito boot information which currently is set to be discarded Drive current: -indev 'altlinux-6.0.1_rc2-simply-i586-ru-install-dvd5.iso' Media current: stdio file, overwriteable Media status : is written , is appendable Boot record  : El Torito , ISOLINUX isohybrid MBR pointing to boot image Media summary: 1 session, 1767244 data blocks, 3452m data,  881m free Volume id    : 'Simply Linux 6.0.1  (Flounder)' Copying of file objects from ISO image to disk filesystem is: Enabled xorriso : UPDATE : 1 files restored (   716b) in 1 seconds Extracted from ISO image: file '/syslinux/isolinux.cfg'='/home/imz/tmp/isolinux.cfg' Drive current: -outdev '/dev/cdrom' Media current: DVD+R/DL Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 8152m free xorriso : NOTE : Patching boot info table xorriso : UPDATE : Thank you for being patient. 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ISO image produced: 1766978 sectors Written to media  : 1767136 sectors at LBA 0 Writing to '/dev/cdrom' completed sucessfully.  xorriso : NOTE : Giving up -indev 'altlinux-6.0.1_rc2-simply-i586-ru-install-dvd5.iso' The new isolinux.cfg: default live prompt 1 timeout 200 ui gfxboot bootlogo message implicit 1  label harddisk   localboot 0x80   label linux   kernel alt0/vmlinuz     append initrd=alt0/full.cz changedisk ramdisk_size=108143 lang=ru_RU splash noeject xdriver=auto quiet=1 showopts  label failsafe   kernel alt0/vmlinuz     append initrd=alt0/full.cz changedisk ramdisk_size=108143 lang=ru_RU  showopts noapic pci=nomsi noeject acpi=off noload=ahci nomodeset  label rescue   kernel alt0/vmlinuz   append initrd=alt0/full.cz live ramdisk_size=82756 fastboot stagename=rescue showopts  label live   kernel alt0/vmlinuz   append initrd=alt0/full.cz live lowmem fastboot splash stagename=live quiet=1 showopts label memtest   kernel memtest  удалён «/home/imz/tmp/isolinux.cfg» $   To check that the configuration file has actually updated on can run a command like:  xorriso -indev /dev/cdrom -osirrox on -extract /syslinux/isolinux.cfg ~/tmp/isolinux.cfg -rollback_end  && echo 'The new isolinux.cfg:' && cat ~/tmp/isolinux.cfg; rm -fv /home/imz/tmp/isolinux.cfg  or, of course, simply mount the new disk and check.
Comment 8 Ivan Zakharyaschev 2011-11-23 22:27:01 MSK 
A successful work-around was for me to modify /syslinux/isolinux.cfg in the image, before burning, with xorriso-0.6.6.pl00-alt1.

The command below

* reads the image from the file, 
* applies a filter to that configuration file with the wanted substitution, 
* updates its mtime (otherwise xorriso thinks that there is no need to write a new image, because a "filter" is not regarded as a modification of content, just an optimization), 
* extracts (and then prints out) the modified configuration file (for diagnostics),
* patches the isolinux bootloader in the new disk (otherwise the new disk wouldn't boot with "isolinux: checksum error" -- probably because the directory tree is changed compared to the original, so something has to be updated in the bootloader),
* and finally outputs it to the burner.

$ xorriso -indev altlinux-6.0.1_rc2-simply-i586-ru-install-dvd5.iso -external_filter subst default /bin/sed 's/^default harddisk/default live/' -- -set_filter subst /syslinux/isolinux.cfg -- -osirrox on -extract /syslinux/isolinux.cfg ~/tmp/isolinux.cfg -alter_date m +0 /syslinux/isolinux.cfg -- -boot_image isolinux patch -outdev /dev/cdrom -commit_eject out && echo 'The new isolinux.cfg:' && cat ~/tmp/isolinux.cfg; rm -fv /home/imz/tmp/isolinux.cfg
xorriso 0.6.6 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project.

xorriso : NOTE : Loading ISO image tree from LBA 0
xorriso : UPDATE : 1898 nodes read in 1 seconds
xorriso : NOTE : Detected El-Torito boot information which currently is set to be discarded
Drive current: -indev 'altlinux-6.0.1_rc2-simply-i586-ru-install-dvd5.iso'
Media current: stdio file, overwriteable
Media status : is written , is appendable
Boot record  : El Torito , ISOLINUX isohybrid MBR pointing to boot image
Media summary: 1 session, 1767244 data blocks, 3452m data,  881m free
Volume id    : 'Simply Linux 6.0.1  (Flounder)'
Copying of file objects from ISO image to disk filesystem is: Enabled
xorriso : UPDATE : 1 files restored (   716b) in 1 seconds
Extracted from ISO image: file '/syslinux/isolinux.cfg'='/home/imz/tmp/isolinux.cfg'
Drive current: -outdev '/dev/cdrom'
Media current: DVD+R/DL
Media status : is blank
Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 8152m free
xorriso : NOTE : Patching boot info table
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ISO image produced: 1766978 sectors
Written to media  : 1767136 sectors at LBA 0
Writing to '/dev/cdrom' completed sucessfully.

xorriso : NOTE : Giving up -indev 'altlinux-6.0.1_rc2-simply-i586-ru-install-dvd5.iso'
The new isolinux.cfg:
default live
prompt 1
timeout 200
ui gfxboot bootlogo message
implicit 1

label harddisk
  localboot 0x80 

label linux
  kernel alt0/vmlinuz
    append initrd=alt0/full.cz changedisk ramdisk_size=108143 lang=ru_RU splash noeject xdriver=auto quiet=1 showopts

label failsafe
  kernel alt0/vmlinuz
    append initrd=alt0/full.cz changedisk ramdisk_size=108143 lang=ru_RU  showopts noapic pci=nomsi noeject acpi=off noload=ahci nomodeset

label rescue
  kernel alt0/vmlinuz
  append initrd=alt0/full.cz live ramdisk_size=82756 fastboot stagename=rescue showopts

label live
  kernel alt0/vmlinuz
  append initrd=alt0/full.cz live lowmem fastboot splash stagename=live quiet=1 showopts
label memtest
  kernel memtest

удалён «/home/imz/tmp/isolinux.cfg»
$ 

To check that the configuration file has actually updated on can run a command like:

xorriso -indev /dev/cdrom -osirrox on -extract /syslinux/isolinux.cfg ~/tmp/isolinux.cfg -rollback_end  && echo 'The new isolinux.cfg:' && cat ~/tmp/isolinux.cfg; rm -fv /home/imz/tmp/isolinux.cfg

or, of course, simply mount the new disk and check.
Comment 9 Michael Shigorin 2011-11-24 00:38:01 MSK 
(In reply to comment #6)
> There were some objections against default boot from LiveCD, but I don't
> remember exactly what it is. May be we need to discuss this later.
I'd be interested in hearing those.

Let's close this one as WORKSFORME ot NOTABUG, and continue discussing bug #26608.

(In reply to comment #8)
> A successful work-around was for me to modify /syslinux/isolinux.cfg in the
> image, before burning, with xorriso-0.6.6.pl00-alt1.
There's also isomaster (a GUI app).  And here you are just in case:
http://ftp.linux.kiev.ua/pub/Linux/ALT/people/mike/iso/mkimage-profiles/rescue-t6_20111123-i586.iso
http://ftp.linux.kiev.ua/pub/Linux/ALT/people/mike/iso/mkimage-profiles/rescue-t6_20111123-x86_64.iso
Comment 10 Andrey Cherepanov 2012-01-10 13:55:21 MSK 
Ошибка переведена на релиз-менеджера Simply Linux.
Comment 11 Repository Robot 2019-04-19 15:29:16 MSK 
perl-Net-SSLeay-1.86_09-alt2 -> sisyphus:

Fri Apr 19 2019 Igor Vlasenko <viy@altlinux.ru> 1.86_09-alt2
- fixed build (closes: #26606)
Comment 12 viy 2019-04-19 16:08:25 MSK 
промах багой.
Comment 13 Mikhail Efremov 2021-12-28 17:27:11 MSK 
"Installation" is default nowadays.